UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia]

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UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 27, 2015 8:28:42 GMT -6 ting5106 likes this

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THE UNOFFICIAL 2015 6 Hours of Nürburgring PREDICTIONS FORM TO USE

This is a series near and dear to us. Please don't feel like you have to be an expert or great repository of WEC knowledge to enter this challenge, as the WEC season is wild, wooly, and unpredictable. That's why it's so much fun to predict! There are new entrants in all categories, we have entrants that have moved from LM GTE AM to LMP2, we have entrants for whom this may be their last season in WEC, and are looking to go out on top.
This challenge will run all season, with predictions made for each race. The individual race points count towards the Constructors Championship. A prediction will also be made for the end of season standings. This one prediction will be known as the Drivers Champion. Constructors and Drivers will not be dependent on your success or lack thereof throughout the season, so even if you stink up predicting each race, you've still got a shot at the Drivers.

Voting begins NOW for the 6 Hours of Nürburing! The prediction window (voting) closes at the official green flag/start of race. The prediction window will open for the next race when the checkered flag falls on the current race.

End of season predictions will begin when the checkered flag falls at Nurburgring. We will be taking these predictions from 31-Aug until 12-Sept. Then 12-Sept through 17-Sept will be the prediction window for the COTA race.

The reason we do it like this is because, when you vote on the form, it feeds a master list, so we have no real way at the moment to have separate "ballots" so to speak. Therefore, all voting will be a simple matter of the time stamp it is received. Don't worry about time zones. If 12-Sept is the cutoff date, if it's 12-Sept where you live when you vote, that is accepted. We are not going to be overly strict on when you cast your votes. As long as we can determine you cast your vote before the race starts it will be accepted.

For each race, we will be predicting three of the categories. LMP1 & LM GTE Pro will be predicted every race, with LMP2 & LM GTE AM alternating with each race as a wild card. The exception is 24hrs of Le Mans.

6 Hours of Nürburgring Predictions:

We will be picking the 1st THREE finishers for each race, with bonus points awarded to those teams/cars you place in the right position. You must specify which car number you pick due to several teams running 2 or 3 cars.
You cannot alter or resubmit your prediction once it is made (ie your first prediction will be used based on the time stamp of your submission).

The points will be awarded in a 'cross the line' unofficial results basis (ie not the classified results), to avoid complicating the points results by having to amend them when possible disqualifications, time penalties and politics come into play after the race has finished.

Constructors Champion points are awarded as follows:
Each correct top 3 prediction - 2 points
Each top 3 prediction placed correctly in finish order - 1 bonus point
Points will accumulate through out the season. Highest accumulative points at the end of the season wins the Constructors Championship.
Drivers Champion points system is as follows:
Actual official WEC points earned by the team/car you pick will be totaled. 1 bonus point will be added to the actual points for each team/car that you have correctly placed there standing.
Example: Pip will pick Audi car #7 to win the season. Since this car will win every race of the season, it will have an accumulated total of 150 WEC points. Since she will have correctly placed him as the overall winner, she will receive 1 bonus point, so she will have a total of 151 points for this car. She will also pick Audi car #8 to place second, and Audi car #9 to finish third for the season. But #9 will have a great run at Spa and #8 will DNF at COTA, causing them to flip flop. Therefore, she will be awarded those cars actual WEC points, but no bonus points.

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All contestants who follow will receive 7 bonus points.
(If you follow us on Twitter, you will need to send a direct message and state the name you used on your submit form or your code if you have already received)
Please use #n7thGear

Now on to the really important part, OUR winners. The winners of the n7thGear WEC Challenge will be legion. First, the top 3 points earners for each race will be awarded prize information and voucher after each race. All prizes will ship at the end of the WEC season, because participants will have a chance to win several prizes over the span of the contest.

Second, the top 3 points earners for the cumulative season will be awarded the Constructors Cup awards. And, last but not least, the top 3 points earners for the overall season winner prediction will be awarded the Drivers Cup Awards, the Grand Prize.

We are really looking forward to this season, and hope you will join us for this competition. TEAM n7thGear™, has gathered up some outstanding Gofastalot™ Gear! Not unlike the American voting system, we urge you to vote early, vote often, and have fun. There will be many chances to win, and we encourage you to 'git' you some.
Start your engines, racers, and get your Endurance on!

Important Notices:
IF-the cost of shipping your prize(s) exceeds $30.00 US, you will be issued either a gift certificate or a voucher instead. We're sorry about that, but after looking at shipping costs on a cumulative basis along with possible international duties and other fees, it was just too cost prohibitive for us to provide free shipping beyond that. We will provide retail value amounts of the prizes we are offering so you can get shipping estimates. We're sorry for this, but we do not generate revenue here. We're just here to provide a fun place for motorsports enthusiasts to hang and have fun!

All shipping will be arranged by us, unless you are issued a gift certificate or voucher. You will need to provide a shipping address to us via secure methods. We take your privacy very seriously. Before we will even accept your address, we will need you to verify you are 18 or older as we can't accept addresses from minors. 18 and under are welcome and encouraged to participate, just get your parent or legal guardian to correspond with us prior to shipping.

Your name and address will never be shared pubically or sold. We will ship to P.O. boxes if feasible.

DISCLAIMER:*
This contest is not in any way affiliated with or sanctioned by the FIA WEC or any other organization and is an Unofficial Contest created by n7thGear™
Gifts are awarded by n7thGear™ and should in no way assume any affiliation with FIA nor any of their Teams/Drivers, manufacturers and sponsors.

Please understand we are not responsible for any lost or damaged shipments. We will insure higher valued items. Please understand we are not responsible for any injury (ie. sharp objects)

Finally, Please submit your entries using the link provided per each race. You will be PM'd your entry code ID to retain for claiming your prize(s) along with a voucher.

You are free to discuss the WEC races here in this thread, and we encourage you to do so-as the purpose of this contest is to grow our community of passionate motorsport and sim racing enthusiasts that will allow us to turn a few dreams into goals and goals into reality- all the while, showing support to the sport and the teams and drivers who inspire us!

The poll questions are optional, but we encourage all to participate in them.

LMP1 (11) Entries)
1 – Toyota Racing – Toyota TS040 Hybrid – Anthony Davidson*
2 – Toyota Racing – Toyota TS040 Hybrid – Alexander Wurz*
4 – ByKolles – CLM P1/01 AER – Simon Trummer*
7 – Audi Sport Team Joest – Audi R18 e-tron quattro – Marcel Fassler*
8 – Audi Sport Team Joest – Audi R18 e-tron quattro – Lucas di Grassi*
9 – Audi Sport Team Joest – Audi R18 e-tron quattro – Filipe Albuquerque
12 – Rebellion Racing – Rebellion R-One AER – Nicolas Prost
13 – Rebellion Racing – Rebellion R-One AER- Alexandre Imperatori
17 – Porsche Team – Porsche 919 Hybrid – Timo Bernhard*
18 – Porsche Team – Porsche 919 Hybrid – Romain Dumas*
19 – Porsche Team – Porsche 919 Hybrid – Nico Hulkenberg

******Nissan withdraws from 6 Hours of Nurburgring********

******21 – Nissan Motorsports – Nissan GT-R LM NISMO – Tsugio Matsuda***** Not on Provisional Grid
22 – Nissan Motorsports – Nissan GT-R LM NISMO – Harry Tincknell*
22- Nissan Motorsports- Nissan GT-R LM NISMO- Max Chilton
23 – Nissan Motorsports – Nissan GT-R LM NISMO – Olivier Pla*
*****Nissan withdraws from 6 Hours of Nurburgring*****

LMP2 (9) Entries)
26 – G-Drive Racing – Ligier JS P2 Nissan – Roman Rusinov*
28 – G-Drive Racing – Ligier JS P2 Nissan – Gustavo Yacaman*

30 – Extreme Speed Motorsports – HPD ARX-04b – Scott Sharp*
31 – Extreme Speed Motorsports – HPD ARX-04b – Ed Brown*
34 – OAK NO/OUT
35 – OAK Racing – Ligier JS P2 Nissan – Jacques Nicolet*
36 – Signatech-Alpine – Alpine A450b Nissan – Nelson Panciatici*
37 – SMP Racing – NO/OUT

39 – Team SARD- NO/OUT
41 – Greaves -NO/OUT
42 – Strakka Racing – Strakka-Dome S103 Nissan – Nick Leventis*
43 – Team SARD-Morand – Morgan Evo SARD – Pierre Ragues*
45 – Ibanez Racing – NO/OUT
47 – KCMG – Oreca 05 Nissan – Matthew

GTE-Pro (7 Entries)
51 – AF Corse – Ferrari F458 Italia – Gianmaria
71 – AF Corse – Ferrari F458 Italia – Davide Rigon*
91 – Porsche Team Manthey – Porsche 911 RSR – Richard Lietz*
92 – Porsche Team Manthey – Porsche 911 RSR – Patrick Pilet*
95 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Marco Sorensen*
97 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Darren Turner*
99 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Fernando Rees*

GTE-Am (7 Entries)
50 – Larbre Competition – Corvette C7.R – Gianluca Roda*
55 – AF Corse – Ferrari NO/OUT
61 – AF Corse - NO/OUT
62 – Scuderia Corsa – NO/OUT
66 – JMW NO/OUT
67 – Team AAI – Porsche 911 NO/OUT
68 – Team AAI – Porsche 911 GTE RSR NO/OUT
72 – SMP Racing – Ferrari F458 Italia – Viktor Shaitar*
77 – Dempsey Proton Racing – Porsche 911 RSR – Patrick Dempsey*
83 – AF Corse – Ferrari F458 Italia – Francois Perrodo*
88 – Abu Dhabi Proton Racing – Porsche 911 RSR – Christian Ried*
96 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Roald Goethe*
98 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Paul Dalla Lana*
*Denotes full-season FIA World Endurance

REFERENCES:
1)FREE Practice @nuerburgring is over. results:

2) FREE PRACTICE 2 Results:

3) FREE PRACTICE 3 Results:

All the 6h Nurburgring FP sessions are done. The qualifying will start with LMGTE at 14:00 and LMP at 14:30.

4) Qualifying Results:
LMP 1

FULL:

LMP GTE PRO & GTE AM Qualifyimg results:

5) Provisional Starting Grid:

6) Nissan withdraws from 6 Hours of Nurburgring, do not cast prediction

7) OFFICIAL GRID

PRIZES:

GRAND PRIZE:

1ST:

2ND:

3RD:

SEE NOTES BELOW

THE UNOFFICIAL 2015 6 Hours of Nürburgring PREDICTIONS FORM TO USE

PLEASE NOTE: Choosing the RACE CAR NUMBER is OPTIONAL for extra points; predicting TEAM is required.

RACE RESULTS:

Last Edit: Aug 30, 2015 2:38:32 GMT -6 by n7thGear™

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UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 27, 2015 8:29:02 GMT -6

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Post by n7thGear™ on Aug 27, 2015 8:29:02 GMT -6

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ACTUAL RESULTS	WEBBER, LIEB, LOTTERER	LIETZ, PILET, RIGON	SHAYTAR, LAUDA, AGUAS
	LMP 1\| CAR	LMGTE PRO\|CAR	LMGTE AM\| CAR
NAME SUBMISSION TIME STAMP CO	LMP 1 PREDICT P1 P2 P3	LMGTE PRO PREDICT P1 P2 P3	LMGTE AM PREDICT P1 P2 P3 WildCard
SECOND PLACE 5cay5vd8utac1NBR 2015-08-29 21:43:44 PDT US COTA	P1: Audi Sport Team Joest Car 7 Bonus: Treluyer P2: Porsche Car 18 Bonus: Jani P3:Porsche Car 17 Bonus: Bernhard Bonus: FAST LAP: Audi/Lotterer Bonus: Twitter=Yes	P1:AF Corse Car 51 Bonus: Bruni P2: AF Corse Car 71 Bonus: Calado P3: Porsche Team Manthey Car 92 Bonus: Pilet	P1: SMP Racing Car 72 P2: Aston Martin Car 98 P3: Dempsey-Proton Racing Car 30
FIRST PLACE 5cay5vd8utac2NBR 2015-08-29 22:37:45 PDT US Road America	P1:Porsche Car 17 Bonus: N/A P2: Porsche Car 18 Bonus: N/A P3: Audi Sport Team Joest Car 7 Bonus:N/A Bonus: FAST LAP: Audi Sport Team Joest #7 Bonus: Twitter=Yes	P1: Aston Martin Racing Car 95 Bonus: N/A P2: AF Corse Car 51 Bonus: N/A P3: Porsche Team Manthey Car 91 Bonus: N/A	P1: ABU DHABI Proton Racing Car 34 P2: Dempsey-Proton Racing Car 30 P3: Aston Martin Car 98
THIRD PLACE 5cay5vd8utac3NBR 2015-08-30 02:37:54 PDT NL Spa Francorchamps	P1: Porsche Car 17 Bonus: Timo BERNHARD P2: Audi Sport Team Joest Car 8 Bonus: Loïc DUVAL P3: Audi Sport Team Joest Car 7 Bonus: André LOTTERER Bonus: FAST LAP: Porsche 919 Hybrid nr. 17 Bonus: Twitter=YES	P1: AF Corse Car 51 Bonus: Toni VILANDER P2: Aston Martin Racing Car 95 Bonus:Marco SØRENSEN P3: Porsche Team Manthey Car 91 Bonus:Michael CHRISTENSEN	P1: SMP Racing Car 72 P2: Dempsey-Proton Racing Car 30 P3: Aston Martin Car 98
FOURTH PLACE 5cay5vd8utac4NBR 2015-08-30 01:12:32 PDT US Nürburgring	P1: Porsche Car 17 Bonus: M. Webber P2: Porsche Car 18 Bonus: N. Jani P3: Audi Sport Team Joest Car 7 Bonus: Andre Lotterer Bonus: FAST LAP: Audi- Lucas D Bonus: Twitter=No	P1: Porsche Team Manthey Car 91 Bonus: N/A P2: Aston Martin Racing Car 99 Bonus: Ress, F P3: Aston Martin Racing Car 95 Bonus: N/A	P1: Dempsey-Proton Racing Car 30 P2: Aston Martin Car 96 P3: Aston Martin Car 98

CA Spa Francorchamps
US Le Mans
US Long Beach Grand Prix

WINNERS!

1st Place: 5cay5vd8utac2NBR ROAD AMERICA
2nd Place :5cay5vd8utac1NBR Circuit of the Americas
3rd Place : 5cay5vd8utac3NBR Spa Francorchamps

You will be contacted by PM if you are a member, or email for non members to claim your prize.

Last Edit: Sept 1, 2015 0:11:09 GMT -6 by n7thGear™

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charreljalving Gt3 (Junior Member) Posts: 15	UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 3:41:44 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by charreljalving on Aug 30, 2015 3:41:44 GMT -6 I got my predictions in! Now lets hope for some safe racing today!

n7thGear™ N7thGear n7thGear Heart broken over loss of my kitty Posts: 1,397 SIM Racing Titles you are playing in: Real Racing 3, Forza 5, Horizon 2, Project Cars, Grand Theft Auto 5, Formula 1 2014, Gran Turismo, Other RACE NUMBER:: 7 Favorite Racing Simulator or Game: So Far it is Forza 5 , Horizon 2 , F1 2014 & DTM Experience 2014 Do you enjoy Motorsport News?: Yes	UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 9:05:23 GMT -6 via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by n7thGear™ on Aug 30, 2015 9:05:23 GMT -6 Nice cha cha, good luck friend
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UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 9:50:25 GMT -6

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Post by Stig's US Cuz'n on Aug 30, 2015 9:50:25 GMT -6

I just voted. It's only almost 5 hrs in. sosorryani

. To be fair, I haven't watched any of the race yet and I didn't vote for Porsche to win if that helps. Since I'm not eligible for prizes I'll be a placeholder at best. If I do happen to knock an eligible participant down a spot out of the points, I'll take a drive thru penalty.
And welcome Charrel. Based on your Twitter feed, my guess is that you are at the race.

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UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 10:07:52 GMT -6 ting5106 likes this

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Post by Stig's US Cuz'n on Aug 30, 2015 10:07:52 GMT -6

Based on this, my clearly superior driving skills gives me a 16 second per lap advantage over Webber and his doddering Porsche, therefore, I proclaim myself the winner of this years 6 Hrs of Nurburgring. You're welcome. I hate rr3. Unless the change the first R to stand for "ridiculous".

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n7thGear™ N7thGear n7thGear Heart broken over loss of my kitty Posts: 1,397 SIM Racing Titles you are playing in: Real Racing 3, Forza 5, Horizon 2, Project Cars, Grand Theft Auto 5, Formula 1 2014, Gran Turismo, Other RACE NUMBER:: 7 Favorite Racing Simulator or Game: So Far it is Forza 5 , Horizon 2 , F1 2014 & DTM Experience 2014 Do you enjoy Motorsport News?: Yes	UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 11:51:38 GMT -6 via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by n7thGear™ on Aug 30, 2015 11:51:38 GMT -6 Thanks to all who participated! Predictions will be verified; Points will be determined and winners announced as soon as possible.
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UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 14:17:05 GMT -6

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Post by charreljalving on Aug 30, 2015 14:17:05 GMT -6

I wish I was at the WEC race! :-D No I was at Zandvoort yesterday, at the Historic Grand Prix..

To bad I was not able to watch the race today, I also think my predictions are not so good :-( If you guys happen to find a good video with highlights of the race please do let me know :-)

n7thGear™ N7thGear n7thGear Heart broken over loss of my kitty Posts: 1,397 SIM Racing Titles you are playing in: Real Racing 3, Forza 5, Horizon 2, Project Cars, Grand Theft Auto 5, Formula 1 2014, Gran Turismo, Other RACE NUMBER:: 7 Favorite Racing Simulator or Game: So Far it is Forza 5 , Horizon 2 , F1 2014 & DTM Experience 2014 Do you enjoy Motorsport News?: Yes	UNOFFICIAL Predictions Contest: WEC Nürburgring [wecfia] Aug 30, 2015 16:21:49 GMT -6 via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by n7thGear™ on Aug 30, 2015 16:21:49 GMT -6 Highlights START OF RACE FULL HIGHLIGHTS HOUR 1 HOUR 2 HOUR 3 BATTLE : Audi vs Porsche HOUR 4 HOUR 5 POST RACE PRESS CONFERENCE
	Last Edit: Aug 31, 2015 5:13:59 GMT -6 by n7thGear™ n7thGear™ "Like drivers in an endurance race, n7thGear goes for that extra mile"™ Audi Sport Team Joest FTW TWITCH TV "Racing is my life! Anything that happens before or after is just waitng! Well in between, life is not too bad either so here I am sharing it with you!" ~Andre Lotterer #JB17 #keepfightingmichael

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